That Pesky Obama Birth Certificate


According to FactCheck.org:

FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as “supporting documents” to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.

Health Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said in a brief statement this past Monday:

“I … have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago.”

According to Media Matters:

On Fox News, Obama Nation author Jerome Corsi claimed that the campaign of Sen. Barack Obama “has a false, fake birth certificate posted on their website.” In fact, the Hawaii Department of Health has confirmed that the birth certificate posted online by the Obama campaign is “a valid Hawaii state birth certificate” and has called speculation about Obama’s citizenship “pretty ridiculous.”

More from FactCheck.org:

The document is a “certification of birth,” also known as a short-form birth certificate. The long form is drawn up by the hospital and includes additional information such as birth weight and parents’ hometowns. The short form is printed by the state and draws from a database with fewer details. The Hawaii Department of Health’s birth record request form does not give the option to request a photocopy of your long-form birth certificate, but their short form has enough information to be acceptable to the State Department…

The scan released by the campaign shows halos around the black text, making it look (to some) as though the text might have been pasted on top of an image of security paper. But the document itself has no such halos, nor do the close-up photos we took of it. We conclude that the halo seen in the image produced by the campaign is a digital artifact from the scanning process.

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The copy of Obama’s Birth Certificate on the Obama site Fightthesmears.com:
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Blowup of text
hands
The Obama birth certificate, held by FactCheck writer Joe Miller
seal
The raised seal
signature
Alvin T. Onaka’s signature stamp
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Blowup of certificate number

Will someone just let Lou Dobbs touch the damned thing so we can move on?

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That Pesky Obama Birth Certificate

8 thoughts on “That Pesky Obama Birth Certificate

  1. Penny Newman says:

    A Certificate of Live Birth is not a birth certificate. It is a valid document for what it is, but it does not meet the at-the-time-of-birth documentation criteria. Those can be acquired at any time with testimony, and Hawaii has been criticized for passing them out to people who were , in fact, not born in the US.
    Let’s see that passport he used to get into Pakistan in 1981, or how he managed to attend elementary school in a country that by law only educated it’s own citizens (dual citizenship was not recognized by Indonesia, so he had to be a full-fledged Indonesian citizen).

  2. kypatriot says:

    Just very coincidental that ALL records are being suppressed that may give further info on his citizenship: college transcipts, birth certificate, passport, etc.

  3. halmasonberg says:

    Once again, kypatriot, this info is coming from you and I can’t seem to find any reliable source to back up these claims you (and some others) are making. None whatsoever. Again, please forward me any actual info so that I can research this more fully. Otherwise, it just seems like crazy conspiracy theories. Sorry, man.

  4. kypatriot says:

    Excuse me, but how can I furnish evidence that he won’t release? I am not a magician… THis is exactly why he won’t allow the release. What can’t be seen can’t be used as proof. Please explain to me how I can produce whatever it is you think will prove this. I’m a little baffled by your demand!

  5. halmasonberg says:

    What I’m talking about is sending me the info saying he will not have these things released or that what has already been released is NOT legal proof that he’s an American Citizen. Show me where he has not presented the proof that other presidents before him have. From everything I’ve read, the documents he has submitted are legal and binding and all that is required by law of him or any recent president before him. If the representatives of Hawaii don’t release anybody’s long form certificate, but claim it’s there and all the information is proper and legal AND insist that the certification of Birth that is posted online and elsewhere IS the legal document sent out for such purposes, I don’t seem to understand why people are demanding something from this president that they haven’t from any other. As for the passport and college transcripts, send me reliable articles and reporting that confirm that these things are required and have not been presented. Really. I want to research this. I cannot find anything reliable that supports these claims. I just want to know the source of your information. So that I can either verify it, debunk it, or decide that I’m simply not sure. Again, I have no desire to spread misinformation. Or to support something that isn’t true. But my findings have been different from yours. All I’m asking for is the information to back up your claims; the sources of your knowledge. My curiosity is genuine, not mocking. I posted articles and quotes that I was able to find that were relevant. I saw what people were claiming and I saw what the answers were that were given. You seem to feel pretty strongly about this so I assume your have a source (hopefully several) for your information.

    Thanks.

  6. Randy says:

    There are people out there who simply won’t accept a black man as president of the United States. They’ll stoop to anything—even a crazy campaign to question Obama’s true citizenship, despite solid proof that he was born in Hawaii.

    There are others who want to damage the credibility of anyone who “doesn’t attend their church.”

    And there’s a third group who will believe and promote any bullshit that comes down the pike.

    These three groups comprise the birthers.

    As for the questions about Obama traveling to Pakistan, studying in Indonesia, etc., most of these folks have never been outside the United States. They are insular and largely misinformed on all issues. I traveled, studied and worked abroad, and bent a few rules to do so, back in the day. If you are smart and resourceful, it can be done. Just like going into the “12 Items or Fewer” line at the grocery store with a dozen items and tossing a pack of gum on the conveyor belt.

    Nothing is being “suppressed” and there is no conspiracy.

    This is a trick by fanatical elements of the right wing to discredit a non-right-winger. This is brought to you by the same folks who engaged in the Swift Boat incident against John Kerry during the 2004 Presidential campaign. Kerry didn’t fight it and enough feeble-minded people believed the rumors circulating through their Wal-Marts and Mega-Churches that it did irreparable harm to Senator Kerry on Election Day.

    It worked.

    This fringe group was able to take an actual U.S. war hero and make enough people believe the hype that turned him into a coward in their minds. He lost the veteran vote to a guy who worked the system to avoid actual service by sometimes showing up for Air Guard exercises, then blowing it off entirely to party.

    To members of the group calling yourselves ‘birthers’ and kicking up all this dust at a time when our nation is working to emerge from a crisis caused by the right wing: Shame on you.

    I am a red-white-and-blue American, born in our nation’s heartland. I am also a Christian. The real kind who embraces tolerance–not the hating kind. And I love my country. I am convinced that out president does, too, and I feel that it is important to defend him.

    The United States faces so many challenges right now, domestically and abroad, and we are now governed by a new president with new ideas who is a good man.

    No matter how zany or downright crazy, the birthers attempts to distract, discredit and misinform delivers a blow to U.S. recovery. It is un-American and pathetic.

    I enjoyed hearing Bill Maher’s thoughts on this on his latest show. While I don’t always agree with him, this time he was spot-on.

    See below.

    Enjoy.

    Friday, July 31, 2009
    ‘Birthers’ must be stopped

    http://www.billmaher.com/
    No matter how dumb, the people who are questioning whether Obama was born in the U.S. could eventually cause real problems.

    By Bill Maher
    July 31, 2009

    Never underestimate the ability of a tiny fringe group of losers to ruin everything.

    For the last couple of weeks, we’ve all been laughing heartily at the wacky antics of the “birthers” — the far-right goofballs who claim Barack Obama wasn’t really born in Hawaii and therefore the job of president goes to the runner-up, former Miss California Carrie Prejean.

    Also, when Obama was sworn in as president, he forgot to give his answer in the form of a question.

    And yet, every week, the chorus of conservatives demanding to see his birth certificate grows. It’s like they’re the Cambridge police, Obama’s in his house — the White House — and they need to see some ID.

    And there’s nothing anyone can do to convince these folks. You could hand them, in person, the original birth certificate and have a video of Obama emerging from the womb with Don Ho singing in the background … and they still wouldn’t believe it.

    Which raises the question: Why, in this country, is it always the religious right that won’t take anything on faith?

    So far, the reaction from Democrats is to laugh this off, and I understand why. If you seriously believe that President Obama is an African sleeper spy, get out of your chat room and have your house tested for lead.

    But we live in America, and in America, if you don’t immediately kill arrant nonsense, no matter how ridiculous, it can grow and thrive and eventually take over, like crab grass or reality shows about fat people.

    This flap might be a deluded right-wing obsession that is a total waste of time, but so was Whitewater, and look where that ended up. A handful of Republican operatives, enraged at Bill Clinton’s unprecedented economic growth and budget surpluses, found a woman named Paula Jones, which led to a woman named Monica Lewinsky, which gave me enough material to eventually be able to buy a big house in Bel-Air. Which I’m still conflicted about.

    More recently we had the Swift Boat allegations against John Kerry, in which Kerry was accused of volunteering to serve in Vietnam so he could jump in front of a bullet so he could get a medal and then throw it away to satisfy his urge to insult real Americans. This was so stupid that Kerry refused to even discuss it.

    And we all know how well that worked out.

    And once these stories get out there, they’re hard to stamp out because our media do such a lousy job of speaking truth to stupid. Vietnam, Iraq and the Spanish-American War were all sold on lies that were unchallenged or even abetted by the media. Clinton got impeached and Kerry got destroyed in large part because the media didn’t have the guts to say, “This is nonsense.”

    Lou Dobbs has been saying recently that people are asking a lot of questions about the birth certificate. Yes, the same people who want to know where the sun goes at night.

    And Lou, you’re their new king.

    That’s why it’s so important that we the few, the proud, the reality-based attack this stuff before it has a chance to fester and spread. This isn’t a case of Democrats versus Republicans. It’s sentient beings versus the lizard people, and it is to them I offer this deal: I’ll show you Obama’s birth certificate when you show me Sarah Palin’s high school diploma.

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